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XLR into a Home Audio System
5 Jul 2006 16:07:06 -0700
rec.audio.tech
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Julio Castro...
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Hello everybody:
I'm looking for put a graphic equalizer between my CD player and the
amp. Specifically, I haven't yet decided between the dbx
As many of you shoul know such processors have only balanced XLR/TRS
connectors, nevertheless their manual claim to be able to handle
unbalanced connections.
Arny Krueger...
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Not universally true. For example, some Rane graphic eqs have both pro and
RCA connectors.
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Karl Uppiano...
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Then there is no problem.
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TimPerry...
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look real close at the rear view. also see specs below and not 1/4" inputs
and outputs.
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So far I understand that I can make my own balanced-to-unbalanced
Arny Krueger...
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Please see for the usual reference in this area:
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cables easily, and also, that it's better to use a transformer isolated
Arny Krueger...
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In all liklihood - unecessary.
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connection in my case.
Karl Uppiano...
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Yes, and no. A high quality transformer would be expensive and unnecessary
unless you plan to string the cables a very long distance, which would be
why you might consider balanced lines in the first place. Lots of modern
balanced equipment doesn't use transformers these days anyway. They use
op-amps.
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Nevertheless, I'm most concern about the impedance and input signal
compatibilities. As I understand impedance diferences between
equipments may lead to signal degradation, noise and in the worst case
Arny Krueger...
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Shouldn't be a problem, as signal levels out of a CD player are typically
not all that dissimilar from pro audio conventions. Putting the eq in the
tape loop of a home system could be a different situation.
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Arny Krueger...
to damage in the equipment.
Karl Uppiano...
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Impedance should not be a concern. These days, output impedance is usually
low; input impedance is usually high - both for pro and consumer gear. Audio
lines are not transmission lines requiring matched impedance. Pro signal
levels are usually +4 or +8 dBm; consumer gear is sometimes -10 dBm. This is
not a big enough difference to cause damage, but pro gear might overload the
consumer gear. Similarly, the consumer gear might not have enough output to
drive the pro gear without a booster amplifier.
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So I'm asking your kind help in order to find (or maybe build) the
equipment that shall connect both systems perfectly. I want the signal
to be perfect on, in order of preference, quality, impedance and
voltage.
What do I need for the job?
Arny Krueger...
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Simple cables or adaptors.
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Geoff...
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First you need to rationalise why you feel a graphic EQ there at all. Then
I would be inclined to find a unit with the same type of inoputs/outputs as
the rest of your gear.
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TimPerry...
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four 1/4" to RCA adaptors or 1/4" to RCA cables
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Specifications of CD player and amplifier input signal are:
Sensivity: 150 mV
Impedance: 50 kilohms
amp: S/N (78' IHF): 82 dB (A, 150mV(Weighted network, input level))
Arny Krueger...
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These are for just the integrated amp, right?
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Specs of the dbx 231 (and 1231) are:
Inputs
Connectors: 1/4" TRS, female XLR (pin 2 hot)
Type: Electronically balanced/unbalanced, RF filtered
Impedance: Balanced 40kohm, unbalanced 20kohm
Max Input Level: >+21dBu balanced or unbalanced
CMRR: >40dB, typically >55dB at 1kHz
Outputs
Connectors: 1/4" TRS, male XLR (pin 2 hot)
Type: Impedance-balanced/unbalanced, RF filtered
Impedance: Balanced 100ohm, unbalanced 50ohm
Max Output Level: >+21dBu balanced/unbalanced into 2kohm or
greater
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Julio Castro...
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Any comments are welcome
JC
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